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Old 10-24-2008, 12:02 PM   #1
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Default Ford or Dodge auto trans?

If you were putting a 96 cummins into a 91 F350, would you use the stock dodge auto tranny or the Ford E4OD? Which is better? Can one be built to take more abuse?

How difficult would it be to put a manual in a truck that came with an automatic? If I got a manual from an early F-350, would the automatic truck already have the provision for the clutch pedal?
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:45 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ford or Dodge auto trans?

Ford C6 is hard to beat. But no OD. Not a big fan of the E4OD. or 4R100. Both Dodge and Ford can be built. Lotsa cash.

Can't say for certain on the clutch pedal assy. Most have the hangers for it under the dash, and dimples in the firewall for the rest. Are you running a 12v or 24v?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:50 AM   #3
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Default Re: Ford or Dodge auto trans?

4R100 is $$$ to rebuild and there aren't a whole lot of aftermarket parts for them. I've never heard of anyone putting one behind a Cummins, not saying that it can't be done though.
I don't think an E4OD would last as all behind any of the modern diesels or a tuned up 12v.

The Dodge trans isn't really better stock compared to the 4r100 but there lots of aftermarket for them and parts are a bit cheaper (still $$$ though) The 47RE/48RE is pretty much a 727 with an overdrive bolted on the back. I built the trans in my truck last year and I've got about $2500 into it. I left the flexplate stock as well as the intermediate and output shafts, those parts would have been another $1800 or so.



Putting a manual shouldn't be too bad.

Have you looked at the conversion webpages like FordCummins.com and there's a few others? They might have info for you.

Also there's a few webboards like Competetiondiesel.com, TDR1.com that might have some info.
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Dan, it's a 12 valve. I'll just get a manual. I really do not want an automatic, I hate them, especially behind a diesel. Which dodge manual was behind the cummins in 96?
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Dan, it's a 12 valve. I'll just get a manual. I really do not want an automatic, I hate them, especially behind a diesel. Which dodge manual was behind the cummins in 96?
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Yeah I agree, manual is better IMO.

A well built auto is nice, don't get me wrong, but I like the feel of a manual better since there is no "slush" of the torque convertor. I almost put a 5 speed in my truck, but it would have been more $$ all told since the T Case input is different, different driveshafts, new PCM, new interior parts, etc. Plus a good clutch and big trans input shaft aren't cheap either.
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