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Old 12-21-2007, 08:58 PM   #51
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:17 PM   #52
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:18 PM   #53
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Stop taking pictures and pull the crate apart.
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Old 12-22-2007, 03:26 PM   #55
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Did they make it out of galvanized steel or did they galvanize it afterwards? The welds look galvanized too.
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It was hot-dip galvanized in Spokane after being assembled in Montana. Little Giant and I will be prepping it at 5-Star tonight, and painting it with POR-15 tomorrow.

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Old 12-22-2007, 10:32 PM   #57
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LG backed out and is instead drinking beer at home. The frame has been cleaned and has the metal-etching on it now, so I have to keep that damp for 20 minutes, hose it down, and then we'll POR-15 tomorrow.
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Old 12-22-2007, 11:25 PM   #58
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Before you paint it you might want to check all the bolt holes. Sometimes the hot dipping process can either make holes smaller than they are supposed to be or block them all together. At least that has been my experience.
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Before you paint it you might want to check all the bolt holes. Sometimes the hot dipping process can either make holes smaller than they are supposed to be or block them all together. At least that has been my experience.
All of the threaded holes at least, along with the rear shackle-hanger and the bolts welded in to hang the gas tank, were filled/coated with RTV before the galvanizing. There was still some flashing that I de-burred tonight, and I'm expecting to have to run a tap/die through everything. Since those locations will have hardware against them, I'm not as concerned about rust developing there. If I have to drill out a hole a little bigger later, I'm not going to sweat it. I'm being as anal as I can with the frame prep, but nothing is 100%. I found a few locations tonight where the galvanizing didn't take too, so I'm definitely glad I'm doing the POR-15.
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Old 12-22-2007, 11:49 PM   #60
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You guys still at the shop??????
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You guys still at the shop??????
I left shortly after posting that last message. We'll be there tomorrow!
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:46 PM   #62
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Old 12-25-2007, 02:10 PM   #63
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Rob, my buddy down here works at rhino linings of Kenai peninsula, heres a link to his myspace pic.... lined inside and out. May be something to think abouthttp://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=25958263
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Old 12-26-2007, 06:24 PM   #64
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The makings of my dream (and probably LG's nightmare since it's in his garage).
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Old 12-29-2007, 04:26 AM   #65
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What was the price on the frame? The work your doing is well worth the time & money. My CJ-5 had been torn down to the frame 3 times as long as I have had it. Fun each time!
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What was the price on the frame? The work your doing is well worth the time & money. My CJ-5 had been torn down to the frame 3 times as long as I have had it. Fun each time!
CJ-8 frame: $1895
spring outboard: $185
galvanizing: $400
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I wanted him to do the outboarding at his shop so that it could be galvanized as well. He did a NICE job on the outboarding, and set it up so that zinc could pour into the middle of the outboard boxes too. I haven't seen an outboard done as nicely as he did this. I also asked him to set up the front end for YJ spring-length. All the welds looks top notch. All the materials looked thicker than factory, especially the rear crossmember. The nutserts don't look like they'll rust-out like they do on the factory CJ frames, plus they're galvanized.

I ordered the frame from Throttledown Kustoms, http://www.throttledownkustoms.com . The owner is Jeremy Pulse, and he was a pleasure to deal with. The frame came out exceeding all expectations and was totally worth the investment. I also ordered my tub through him since he's a dealer for Aqualu Industries.
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Aluminum body and galvy frame? If you wanted a Land Rover, you should've just bought one.

I seriously considered building a CJ-7 this way, but the cost and the fact I couldn't find aluminum fenders and hoods at the time kinda put the kibosh on it. If all of the other systems are as well thought out as those two, the Jeep should last forever.

How are you planning on cutting down the corrosion where aluminum and steel meet? Are you going to rely on the paint, or are you going to add some kind of buffer? I'm still working that out on my Rover.
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Aluminum body and galvy frame? If you wanted a Land Rover, you should've just bought one.

I seriously considered building a CJ-7 this way, but the cost and the fact I couldn't find aluminum fenders and hoods at the time kinda put the kibosh on it. If all of the other systems are as well thought out as those two, the Jeep should last forever.

How are you planning on cutting down the corrosion where aluminum and steel meet? Are you going to rely on the paint, or are you going to add some kind of buffer? I'm still working that out on my Rover.
I'm still using lots of steel on this project. My solution to galvanic corrosion: Herculiner and stainless. If I can find suitable zinc-coated fasteners, I'll use those.
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Make sure to use anti seize on all stainless fasteners. If you don't, chances are they will freeze putting them on or taking them off.
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Make sure to use anti seize on all stainless fasteners. If you don't, chances are they will freeze putting them on or taking them off.
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I hate stainless fasteners.
as do I, and I use them every day. Don't use an impact or air ratchet on them. The speed will heat them up and they will also freeze. By hand only.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:22 PM   #72
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Dude, if you use stainless, you will hate yourself at some point.

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And even by hand, they will still lock up and snap like twigs. Stainless is hard. That also means it is brittle. AND, if you're looking for a material that will be better for the aluminum......

When you put two dis-similar metals together, a process called "electrolisys" eats away at the softer of the two metals. This process is most prevalent in boats operated in a salt water environment (I have a little experience in this field). However, it will happen, to an extent, in any circumstance where two dis-similar metals are connected. Any electrical current that goes through the metal structure, (and it will), will flow from the softer material to the harder. When this happens, a small "explosion" will occur, blowing chunks of the softer material away as the current flows to the harder material. Microscopic as it may be, over time this equates to the complete and utter destruction of your aluminum pieces and parts (your tub).

Good quality Grade 8 hardware is far stronger, will last longer, and is not as hard a metal as stainless, causing less destructive "electrolisys" between it and the aluminum. And chances are, when you need to get things apart later, the grade 8 hardware will probably come apart instead of snapping like twigs.
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I know a lot of Rover guys that rely on a combination of the paint and plastic/rubber seals where aluminum and steel meet. As for hardware, I'm going with Grade 8 and thin nylon washers where I can't avoid contact with a aluminum panel. There's still going to be that corrosion thing happening, but hopefully I can make it more manageable. My Rover's aluminum tub body parts are 35 years old and still are in good shape. Hopefully I can extend that trend.
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Sounds like good planning. Do it once and do it right. Keeps that high dollar aluminum lasting a lifetime.
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What I like about the stainless is I can buy a complete stainless kit. How 'bout stainless bolts with grade 8 nuts?
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