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Old 04-14-2005, 03:05 PM   #376
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The stuff printing press people called chip board is great. And it comes in large pieces. I guess you have better tips than I do, thats the main reason I don't use my flame burner too often.

Plasma is cool because if you're cutting within capacity and go all the way through, your dross will knock off easily. Not always so for torches. But plasma has a much worse bevel angle on cuts.... The only benefits a plasma cutter has over gas is no preheat, and it costs less per linear foot of cut...and, well, I find it easier. Plus you can gouge away with plasma...even in tight quarters with oil pans, etc. I can also cut a sharp drossless piece of 1/2 steel with a torch. I'm just a freak and like knowing that 15kW is pumping into steel... That alone is exciting.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:05 PM   #377
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People get all worked up about Plasma, but really, I find oxy acet to be an easier process for stuff over 1/8", Mostly because of the torch design. If I could only have one, I would definately have oxy/act torches. Without a doubt. Both processes require practice... Before I had ever used a plasma, I used to read all this hype how Plasma is so sweet, and so much more accurate, and so much easier to use. It was just that... HYPE. Getting a plasma, in no way, will make you a better fabricator. All (well, 90%) it does is save time, IMO.
I've felt that way for a long time as well. I do use both and oxy/act is definately more versitile. Plasma cutters are great in the shop but thatswhere it ends. Why spend $1800 on a bling bling Plasma cutter when you can do the same thing and go more places with it for about $400-500.
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Old 04-14-2005, 07:59 PM   #378
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Wayne, this is about as good as I can get with hand cutting brackets... After that, its all about the flapper disc on my 4.5" grinder. Notice the silver sharpie markings.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:04 PM   #379
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Rear brake lines...

I didnt have a cool way to hold the tee, so I cut a peice of rec tube and captured it by welding the steel tubing to the axle truss. Kinda hack, but its gonna work well.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:09 PM   #380
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additional pictures of the co2 mount
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:16 PM   #381
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Got all the gussets finished and welded...
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:28 PM   #382
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Here is a tip for cutting brackets and stuff...

I control the torch with my right hand (im right handed) and support it with my left. On my right, I wear a thin glove, in this case its Pig Skin, and called a "Mig Glove". On my left I wear a heavy (stick welding?) glove, with a Radnor or Tillman heat shield on it. This allows me to rest my hand on the material im cutting, even right on top of places I have just cut.

My technique is to "roll" my supporting hand, while maintaining proper torch geometry with the controlling hand. This is only good for cuts of about 4", so when I reach the end of my rolling "Stroke" I cut out away from my cut line, and re-position to continue along.

If that doesnt make sense, I'll get video of my next bracket.
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Old 04-14-2005, 08:34 PM   #383
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A better pic of the heat shield... This is also very nice for doing lots of welding. If welding runs of over 2" I generally wear that heavy glove with the heat shield, and use an old leather glove to grip the nozzle of my MIG torch. Allows me to make long welds without having to stop cause of heat.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:08 PM   #384
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Thanks Brook for taking time to share that info .

i actually started that practice by accident i lost my right glove at a work site and used my driving pig skin glove . i liked the feel so much i kept doing it and my welding jacket fit over my gloves so no **** falls behind .

i have a oxy torch set by harris but i have not bought any tanks . i hate the idea of moving and having to loose them .

i am going to try those princaples on my next project ..a sliding tire /tool rack in my truck bed . its going to hold 2 full size spares . tool box /recovery gear but a quick glance look like the baja racks in truck class . the idea is to be light easy to reach and be able to lock down my gear . it will slide foward to load /unload and lock back in place .

so many ideas so little time /money .

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Old 04-18-2005, 09:28 PM   #386
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so how close are ya to firing her up and testing your latest work ?
i hope i am still in country to see her in action again . have your plans for your bed changed since the start of this build up ?
i was wondering how you will tie it all together and still get air flow /and carry camping /hunting supplies in .
i know u have it well mapped out ! i am excited to see it put to use this spring !
thanks again Brook for the help . i am going to look for a heat sheild i have just been living with the heat ...
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I should have it running by this weekend, but I dont know when it will be back on the trail. When are you leaving?

I've been working on the small details for the last few days... I built the bed deck out of a single piece, but while trying to do the inital fit-up I got the **** thing stuck. After a good two hours of b.s. I got it out and decided to follow my initial plan of making the deck in three sections.

I cut two side pieces and one middle piece with enough room in between for a sliding hook mechanism. The slots are capped underneath with a "Hat" style hull stiffener made for boat hulls. (just a hat shaped 1/8" thick aluminum extrusion) The hull stiffeners are riveted to the middle piece, and the outside pieces are going to be held on with countersunk 1/4 stainless screws, and Nutserts.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:42 PM   #388
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Ammo can flushed into the deck. Just barely fit, so I can weld it right to the gas tank hold down bracket.
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One more ammo can, spare axle shaft mount, and where Im thinking of putting the shovel.
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Pull Pal mounts
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Stub shaft mounts, and a couple brackets to hold the tire Irons in place.
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Brook, I hate you man! :devil4:

That looks fantastic!!! Great work, hell even your ideas for mounting spares and tools are inventive.

Keep up the great work oh fab master.....
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49,283 Inventive ideas you have.........and $.99 hose clamps

LOL...kidding Brook...more awesome work...hadnt been in here for awhile (jealousy mainly)...coming together very well. It's nice to see your creativity coming to full-circle fruition...for a layman like me, this thread has been a tremendous incentive
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49,283 Inventive ideas you have.........and $.99 hose clamps
I got a performance review once that mentioned something about "crossing the point of diminishing returns"....

While I do like to waste time making completely rediculous little gadgets, there comes a time in every project that you gotta sh!t or get off the pot. 99 cent hose clamps here I come!


The buggys gotta be painted and running by Sunday 'cause Im gonna get serious about finding a job starting Monday.
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I'm doing this tonight. Did you use regular vinul hose? I went to alaska rubber and they were concerned about it, so they sold me some expensive (compared to vinul) poly urethane hose. Its not as clear, but its rated for high temperature oils. I was only buying a foot so I just bought what they handed me. You've gotta be careful there or buy drops, because some of that aeroquip hose is expensive.

I'm not worried about putting a metal guard around mine, because of how high and protected it is in my situation. The hose is pretty heavy duyt. It looks like is been pre-urinated in, but you'll see later.

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Since the 205 is clocked flat, and the 203 is upside down, I have never had a good way to verify the fluild levels. Basically, all I have been doing is filling them while they are on the bench, then hoping for the best the rest of the season. This time I took the time to put a sight gage on both cases (forgot to take pics of the 203 gage).



Anyway, the fittings and vinyl tubing is all from home depot. The protective tubing is parts from a mirror off an old 72 GMC beach truck. None of the pieces of stainless were long enough, so I but welded them together, and bent them around with some heat from the ol' oxy/act torch. I scrapped one because I put too much heat on the inside of the bend. The next try I just focused the heat along the outside of the bend, and it worked well.
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wow!! u should have alot more cargo room than the last set up and still have it all secure . Great job , and thanks for the long write up , liked it alot !

i think it would be cool to see your weight bias now ? with the radiator in back and a shorter frame etc ?

it should perform great for ya . it will be tough for you to, out do yourself next season !

but i think for the next hatchers pass ,you need a fold up bed for your roof !
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I'm doing this tonight. Did you use regular vinul hose? I went to alaska rubber and they were concerned about it, so they sold me some expensive (compared to vinul) poly urethane hose. Its not as clear, but its rated for high temperature oils. I was only buying a foot so I just bought what they handed me. You've gotta be careful there or buy drops, because some of that aeroquip hose is expensive.

I'm not worried about putting a metal guard around mine, because of how high and protected it is in my situation. The hose is pretty heavy duyt. It looks like is been pre-urinated in, but you'll see later.
Mine is high and protected too, but I just had to do something. Its the whole "anal" thing. Some times I just cant ignore it.

Sounds like you got Tygon tubing?

I am using regular vinyl hose from home depot. I was worried about it, until I ran it for a fuel tank sight gage for all of last season. Never was a problem.
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wow!! u should have alot more cargo room than the last set up and still have it all secure . Great job , and thanks for the long write up , liked it alot !

i think it would be cool to see your weight bias now ? with the radiator in back and a shorter frame etc ?

it should perform great for ya . it will be tough for you to, out do yourself next season !

but i think for the next hatchers pass ,you need a fold up bed for your roof !
Actually, the radiator has been in the back for several years, and the "frame" is longer than before by a good 12". I think my weight bias will be pretty good now, prolly 60/40 front/rear. Im thinking about getting a vertical dynomometer to find out. Northern tool has one that can do 3k. so I should be able to get a weight on the rear pretty easy. The buggy weighed 5500 empty last year. Hopefully its not too much more this year.


I actually have a big enough bed now, that I could prolly sleep on it.
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It was a thinly veiled attempt at a compliment. You are by no means wasting your time or mine! Thanks for taking the time to document your work. Very cool. Please press on. And thanks again for the tips on the wheels. I've been in AirGas several time here in Fbx, but they seem to always have been out of stock on 4.5" stuff when I'm there.

BTW can you link a good place to get a good understanding of the fundamentals and terms of link suspensions? Things like roll center antisquat, etc. I have a basic understanding of the principles but no idea how to go about calculating what lengths and angles are best for a vehicle/purpose.
Quoted myself only to say the nortens are at home depot. And, thanks for the timbren info. Blackjack has a pair headed my way. I'm using mine it the front though.

BTW that last vid is sweet. I wish I had that many horses under the hood.
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I took the buggy for a little trail ride last weekend. The ground was still very frozen, and dropping off a nice sized ledge resulted in this...
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