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Old 06-29-2016, 09:10 PM   #1
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Building a Tow Vehicle to take over the duties of the F350. It was suppose to be a winter project but I decided to get an early start on it.

Starting rig is another '05 Super Duty PSD with pto hydraulic pump and VMax rotary air compressor. It doesn't move under it's own power.

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tranny ready for rebuild




Because I like crewcabs....




Built a cab picker. It'll get used several times during this project




Off with the old



it took longer to remove the air compressor, air dryer and hoses than it did to prep the cab for removal.
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Old 06-29-2016, 09:52 PM   #2
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I see red superdutys every where i look !
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Old 06-30-2016, 01:30 AM   #3
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I see red superdutys every where i look !
Common slope truck color.

Quite a few at this last auction. They sold in the 4-6k area. Really high hours on them though.



I wish starting early on a project. I still have "breakup" projects I haven't started and summer is running out quick!
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:25 AM   #4
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I see red superdutys every where i look !
It's a fetish
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Old 06-30-2016, 12:11 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=nate;616779]Common slope truck color.

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Contractor grade trucks came in red or white.
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That thing probably has the front end that should be under your burban project. Should have the "super 60" I think. A little bigger everything and the turning radius is sharper. Should make a sweet tow rig. You have a bed for it or just doing a flat bed?
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:45 AM   #7
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honestly I haven't looked close enough or measured to see if it's a super 60. Probably build a flat bed. Being a short guy it gets old climbing up the tire every time I need to get something out of the bed.
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Old 07-01-2016, 03:36 PM   #8
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Anyone want to weight in on this kit? Is there anything else I need to 'add' to it?


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...A2GMYGB5C1UJR0



Dowels are 18mm, confirmed by dealer using vin. Guy at the counter didn't think it would tell him. Guess he learned something too.
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I've never really worked on an electronically controlled engine. It is tedious just getting to where you can start tearing down the bigger parts. I've paid to have work done under the hood of my other 6.0 and glad I did. Hats off to the people that do this for a living (I may have to find one so I can put it back together).
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Shack, engine mounts don't need to be removed on a 6.0 to change the oil cooler, the cab does not have to come off to remove the turbo. Ford did not recommend cab removal, nor did it pay for it under warranty. The engine can be removed as a complete unit without taking the cab off too.
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The engine can be removed as a complete unit without taking the cab off too.
If I wasn't changing the cab I think, maybe, I would have pulled the engine to do all these upgrades.

I just bought the manuals for these engines. The top end is one complicated SOB. So far only done one thing that wasn't required.

You want to come help me pull the heads Monday?
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Old 07-03-2016, 08:23 AM   #12
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ok guys this is my build thread not your chit chat post, if it isn't about what I'm doing or gonna do take it somewhere else
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I doubt the details are visible in the pics after dumbing them down and loading on PB. The block has some pretty nasty pitting. It's the kind of stuff that is causing me concern and will always be in the back of my mind when putting the hammer down. If it were a typical gasser engine I'd tear it all the way down and deck the block. I don't have the money to go that far right now.

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Old 07-17-2016, 12:35 AM   #14
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How deep? If just a thou or two polish it out with a stone.

Was it leaking? I'm assuming so since you have the head off.
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Old 07-17-2016, 12:57 AM   #15
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Don't know if it leaked. Doing other maintenance upgrades and studding heads while I have it apart.
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Like my Dad tells me... you had to fix it till you broke it huh?

I haven't worked on the 6.4 or 6.7, but the 6.0 you didn't have to lift the heads to put studs in.
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As you said, hard to tell from the pix, too deep to draw file?
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as per electronically controlled engines they are completely managed via computer, so id recommend getting the diag. software and the cord for a laptop so you can do it all from the push of a button. But be forewarned, the software isnt cheap. My snap on scan tool was almost 4 grand alone, but money well spent. It has payed itself off atleast twice by now.
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yeah, no. Not spending 4k on diagnostic tools. I would buy a mechanical engine before doing that.
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Then it is what it is
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Most of your high end tuners work as a scan tool. I have a ITSX in the buggy to manage codes that pop up. It reads them, gives me the actual code"P220" or something like that then it actually tells me in English what that is. Then I can clear them on the fly and go about my day. It will do data logging so I can record what's happening for a 8 hour period then go back and look at what's going on in what areas. All this done from a iPhone. Not sure what your looking for but $400 beats spending 4K all day.
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I think i created a thread asking about scan tools. I got CRS and cant be sure
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Progress is slow. Had to get a bigger torque wrench. Installed one head last night.

One lesson learned, if you leave the exhaust manifold on you have to install the head before the studs.
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Scout stopped by to check on progress and give some pointers. If you are working on a ford diesel he is the man to call. If I was still working I'd have paid him to do all the engine work. The work is about done except for a missing bracket and adding the AC compressor.

We also got to looking at cab mounts and found that it won't be as simple as adding a pair of mounts. The rear pair for the std cab also have to be lowered. Not a big deal but it got me looking harder today. It's nice that I have a similar rig to refer to. It looks like the std cab and cc frames are very different. Basically the frames are flat under the cab and turn up just before the back of the cab. It's enough so that just adding and lowering cab mounts may not do it. I may have to add body lift spacers to the front two pairs of mounts to get the cab level.

The tranny should be done tomorrow so maybe I can get to test fitting the cab soon.
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Any reason you didn't start with a crew cab F450/550 from the get go?
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