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Old 12-15-2016, 06:03 PM   #1
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I got this email from the KRCC community council on a meeting to discuss this new crap:


"To ALL Knik River Public Use Area users-
I will try to keep this as short as possible but you must read this. The BLM is in the process of conveying ALL federal lands in the Knik valley to Eklutna Incorporated as their final land selection under ANILCA. There is one item that is holding up this conveyance. BLM is attempting to reclassify the Knik River as non-navigable between two township lines located at approximately Friday and between Metal creeks. All the land in between these lines is federal land and will be conveyed. By reclassifying the river, it effectively gives Eklutna the river. The federal land goes completly across the entire Knik valley. This will stop all river access to the glacier. Additionally all the land in this atea including all the sandbars will be off limits to all boats, atvs, aircraft, horses, etc. there is one trail on the north side of the river that traverses this area on an RS 2477 public access easement so atv and vehicles can still access the glacier but only on this trail. The State of Alaska DNR is suing to stop this reclassification of the Knik River. The waters above and below the township lines are classified as navigable waters and are not effected. If BLM is allowed to do this then it is very likely that they will do this to other rivers in Alaska.
Presently, Eklutna allows access onto their land by permit only for only foot traffic. Hunting and fishing are prohibited.
Please share this post with every one of your friends and State representatives, Senators and Congressman."
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:44 PM   #2
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Oh, for pete's sake. When is enough, enough?!?!
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Old 12-15-2016, 09:36 PM   #3
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This is not new. To clarify some points:

First is the land title. The lands are currently Federal. They were selected by Eklutna as part of their ANCSA entitlement. The exact selection has changed over time. It basically covers three townships that span the Knik River valley. This is not new and was known when the KRUPA was being formed.

Next, Knik River navigability determination. The term 'navigability' as it's being used in this case is very misleading. There are several definitions used by the govt. The issue at Knik is who will get title to the submerged lands.

The State objected to BLMs non-nav determination and it is going thru the BLMs appeal process. The BLM decision is suppose to be released at the end of the year. The State is prepared to fight, in court, for title to the submerged lands. The State has not filed suit as alleged in the OP. The Legislature and Governor have to provide the money for the State's Dept of Law. Folks are speculating whether the governor will agree.

Regardless of the outcome boats will still be able to use the river.

Public access. There will be at least one easement across the parcels. We have been fighting for two, the inside and outside trails. We also fought to keep the trail into the mountains on the east side of Friday Creek. So far that seems to be holding.

Once the lands are conveyed to Eklutna they will be private property. No different than yours or mine.
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Old 12-16-2016, 01:42 PM   #5
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As Scott stated:
"The term 'navigability' as it's being used in this case is very misleading. There are several definitions used by the govt."
The USCG defines navigable water as "Any water that has the potential to
reach the ocean" This has been stated in nearly every Spill training school I have attended.
All government entities seem to create definitions to support their point of view.
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http://www.frontiersman.com/news/bro...ab116f254.html

KRCC apparently not quite spot on. Good ole social media 'news'.

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I got this email from the KRCC community council on a meeting to discuss this new crap:


"To ALL Knik River Public Use Area users-
I will try to keep this as short as possible but you must read this. The BLM is in the process of conveying ALL federal lands in the Knik valley to Eklutna Incorporated as their final land selection under ANILCA. There is one item that is holding up this conveyance. BLM is attempting to reclassify the Knik River as non-navigable between two township lines located at approximately Friday and between Metal creeks. All the land in between these lines is federal land and will be conveyed. By reclassifying the river, it effectively gives Eklutna the river. The federal land goes completly across the entire Knik valley. This will stop all river access to the glacier. Additionally all the land in this atea including all the sandbars will be off limits to all boats, atvs, aircraft, horses, etc. there is one trail on the north side of the river that traverses this area on an RS 2477 public access easement so atv and vehicles can still access the glacier but only on this trail. The State of Alaska DNR is suing to stop this reclassification of the Knik River. The waters above and below the township lines are classified as navigable waters and are not effected. If BLM is allowed to do this then it is very likely that they will do this to other rivers in Alaska.
Presently, Eklutna allows access onto their land by permit only for only foot traffic. Hunting and fishing are prohibited.
Please share this post with every one of your friends and State representatives, Senators and Congressman."

just give it away to them already! thats the last control youll have.
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