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Old 09-18-2006, 04:07 PM   #1
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I found inspiration


I have a XR500, and a CX 500. Which one should I use!?
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:49 PM   #2
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Where did that picture come from?
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maybe a ZX 6 would be fun.
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I found it on ratbike.org
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Old 09-18-2006, 08:31 PM   #5
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can i ride it sam? ill help ya build it.
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:18 AM   #6
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Only if you promise to do a wheelie!
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Old 09-19-2006, 07:41 AM   #7
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Any suggestions for a rear end? The CX500 I have is shaft drive. so I can make a lot of things work.
Lightweight and low gearing is what I really need.

The CX redlines at 9k, or should I say redzones at 9-12k! So too low of gearing will not be a problem.
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keep it super light if you can - the air-cooled bike will be lighter.

Is the CX streetable? Those are great bikes - you are making me sad if you are killing it
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The CX was running but stopped. Maybe a CDI issue. It is Nikiski and I need to bring it up here.
I would like ot make it bolt on/ Bolt off so I can switch "modes".
The XR is lighter for sure. Would need an ATV swing arm of some sort. Shouldn't be hard to do.

I will see what parts I get for free and go from there.

Although if it works well on one bike, I might not be able to keep from doing it on another.
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There's another interesting machine at the start of this thread; I recognized that it looked like a "karacat" and linked a few threads from this site. [url]http://www.3wheelerworldforums.com/showthread.php?t=56359

I'd like to build one using an ATC 200X frame and engine with three intertube tires. That project is a ways off; after several other projects and after I heal up.

I don't know anything about either bike but if you're using this is the snow, which one of the bikes runs better in the cold?
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:18 AM   #11
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Not sure whcih one runs better.
An water cooled motor stays more constant.
An air cooled will have trouble staying warm enough. I would need to block air flow.
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The CX was running but stopped. Maybe a CDI issue. It is Nikiski and I need to bring it up here.
I would like ot make it bolt on/ Bolt off so I can switch "modes".
The XR is lighter for sure. Would need an ATV swing arm of some sort. Shouldn't be hard to do.

I will see what parts I get for free and go from there.

Although if it works well on one bike, I might not be able to keep from doing it on another.
I have(had, I'd have to get it back from Trevor since he didn't use it as a powerplant) a honda 750 v-4 shaft-drive I'd trade for the CX MORE POWER and not streetable bike being ruined (needs the ignition hot-wired, no key/no title)- if you'd want a heavy, fast machine. I've always liked the CX cause they are so solid/reliable.
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If I could find something like this a big red swing arm, and modify it to bolt on, I could swap as the seasons change.
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But the Xr has a nice reliable kick start.
That is a plus.
I can make some "air flow blockers".
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There's a guy on the board selling a Big Red in pieces. Not sure if it's shaft or chain.
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There's a guy on the board selling a Big Red in pieces. Not sure if it's shaft or chain.
That one is chain drive and has no rear suspension.


Samwe - Look at the swingarms for the 250SX or the Fourtrax. The pivot is on the inner sides of the swingarm, not the outsides like the ES one you posted. Might make it easier to fab mounts onto the frame. Both the SX and the Fourtrax use a round piece of tube in the frame with a bearing race in each end. Looks like it could be duplicated easily. Also, the Fourtrax swingarm is about 3 inches longer than the SX and has a slightly lower gear ratio. I'll see if I can find the pictures of my SX with the Fourtrax swinger installed.

If you're looking to swap swingarms out for the seasons look for an '86 or newer swingarm assembly. I happen to know the '85 has to be completely dissasembled to be removed. The '86+ is a far better design and has a much better rear brake design too. Whatever you do, always make sure the rear diff has plenty of good clean gear oil in it and is vented as high as possible. My SX is vented into my airbox, which is then snorkeled.
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i have some stock snowmachine coilovers if ya want em.
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Old 09-19-2006, 12:26 PM   #18
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That one is chain drive and has no rear suspension.
I have 2 bikes, one chain, one shaft...
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Samwe - Look at the swingarms for the 250SX or the Fourtrax. The pivot is on the inner sides of the swingarm, not the outsides like the ES one you posted.
Here is a stock CX500 swing arm.
Here is a stock XR500 Swing Arm

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With such big fluffy tires, why bother with suspension?
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Suspension on a 3 wheeler is less important than on 4.
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Old 09-19-2006, 03:19 PM   #21
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I still need device to hold an axle and attach to the frame.
A swing arm would work well for that.
Shocks work well for keeping the swinging of a swing arm confined.
Suspension is a non issue.
Finding a cheap reversible way to put 2 tires on the back, that is important!
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:53 PM   #22
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Are some inner tubes made of thicker rubber?
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I still need device to hold an axle and attach to the frame.
A swing arm would work well for that.
Shocks work well for keeping the swinging of a swing arm confined.
Suspension is a non issue.
Finding a cheap reversible way to put 2 tires on the back, that is important!
sounds like both of your swing arms (single wheel and double) need a simple pin to lock it in place. how wide is the hinge point? where the swing arm mounts to the frame? you need to find a two wheeled swing arm that will be the same width. follow?
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Old 09-20-2006, 01:05 PM   #24
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I follow!
For teh Xr teh swing arm is around 8.5-9" wide depending on where you measure.
Anything close to that we can modify to make it exact.
I need to find some ATC's and start measuring.
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so, you also need a ski for up front, that should be the easy part. i have a heavy *** homemade quad frame in my back yard, you can copy the rear arm if you want. but you probably want to find an oem part that will just bolt in.

have you checked atv salvage up the road?
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