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Old 02-06-2016, 06:58 PM   #1
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Red face Brake job

It's 4wd so it fits the category

I thot rockwells were heavy





Took a butt load of heat and all my 3/4 impact could give to break the axle bolts loose.

Now waiting on parts
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Old 02-06-2016, 07:09 PM   #2
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Seals went out and ruined two perfectly good brake discs

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Old 02-07-2016, 10:31 AM   #3
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So the brake assembly is a sub assembly not inline with the axleshaft? its not a wet brake like a wet clutch?
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When you are done with that is the transmission in the f350 next?
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Old 02-07-2016, 03:33 PM   #5
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So the brake assembly is a sub assembly not inline with the axleshaft? its not a wet brake like a wet clutch?
Yeah Case did that for years, I think most other backhoes are like that too, I've only worked on a 580 and John Deere 310. Pretty easy to work on. Scott I have a 1" gun and socket set if you ever need to use it.
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Old 02-07-2016, 05:47 PM   #6
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I can't speak to most hoes. This runs off a pony shaft slaved to the main shaft thru the transaxle. That outer shaft has a pinion like gear that meshes to a ring gear in the housing. They are dry brakes and there is a similar assembly on the other side but w/o the parking brake component.

This is the second time I've done this side. I've wondered if there was some kind of brake lining that would allow me to convert them to wet brakes. They are 800$ per side that gets you two discs and the expansion assembly in the middle of the picture. Normally you don't have to replace the expansion plates.

The JD510 I had was a wet brake and inline with the axle. The axle went thru the brakes. It was way more complicated, horrendously worse to repair and more expensive. A really great machine but the brakes alone would turn me away from another one.

Thanx Nate. I hope I never ever need 1" drive air tools!
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When you are done with that is the transmission in the f350 next?
haha, no the orbital valve is next. A low pressure internal seal went out and it fills the steering column w/hydraulic fluid Unfortunately the seal that I think is leaking has been discontinued. Not sure what I'll do to fix it. A new orbital in 2k+

Removing it has to wait until the new 22T jack stands arrive. Getting to it requires crawling all up under/inside the machine. I don't trust the wood blocks it's on enough to get that far into it.
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Before you give up on the orbital valve seal, talk to Larry at Alaska Bearing (ABCO) in Anch.
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Before you give up on the orbital valve seal, talk to Larry at Alaska Bearing (ABCO) in Anch.
Case says its a square o-ring and gave me dimensions. I haven't made it a priority to find one yet. Dimensions recorded here incase I loose the sticky note 51.16 mm od, 47.09mm id, 1.75mm height
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A source for O ring material is Bearing Engineering in Anch. We bought our O ring material there, if anyone would have square material, they would, ABCO and Alaska Rubber might be worth checking also. Good luck!
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Thanx. I got a kit that replaces the seals above this one. If it doesnt stop the leak i will tear further into it further including this o-ring
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