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Old 11-03-2005, 08:55 AM   #76
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MRS RSOV...really!




It is sad when I move the side mirror to see the front of a rig better. I have no need to look at other guys asses, I'm happy with the one I chose.
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Old 11-03-2005, 11:53 AM   #77
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i'll make you parts, like a kit.
Hey, not $600. If I had to cut 4 sets of rings and 4 rims I'd probably only want $25-50.
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After seeing these tires I think that the 30 splines would get scared and go limp and not go in the housing! I think these tires have rockwells writen all over them!


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Old 11-06-2005, 10:11 PM   #78
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Gus and I were talking today on improving the quality of the rims and reducing setup time. I will be making 2 types of jigs. One will be 3 dual C-clamp looking bars to align the bead seats parallel to each other. The 2nd jig will be a right angle corner to push them into in order to align them down the center.

I thought of something else... Gus and I were talking about something to make the drum fit PERFECTLY on the bead seats. Ty's dad made a ring with adjustment bolts that would push the drum into the shape he wanted. Imagine a christmas tree stand, except ~20" diameter and with a lot more bolts. My idea is to make a ring spreader like Ty's dads...but backwards. 8-10 bolts with nuts welded to a disc. Then bolts would push out in all directions on the drum.

I've got a bunch of discs laying around from the centers of the bead lock rings. I could cut the center out of two of those to make two jigs.

This should GREATLY reduce the setup time. The only runout measurements would be in welding the center and bead lock rings to the drum.
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Old 11-15-2005, 11:12 PM   #79
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I got busy with other things and didn't have time to try the wheel on Diana's rig yet but I did take a pic of the 18.4 next to the 21.5. I'll get the wheel mounted on Diana's rig tomorrow to check for fitment. Here's the pic.

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Old 11-15-2005, 11:23 PM   #80
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Is that thing tiny or what?
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Old 11-16-2005, 05:08 PM   #81
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Gus!
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After seeing these tires I think that the 30 splines would get scared and go limp and not go in the housing! I think these tires have rockwells writen all over them!


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Old 11-17-2005, 05:15 AM   #82
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Is that thing tiny or what?

They do, Damm...
Thanks for the help Gus.
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Old 11-19-2005, 11:39 PM   #83
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I went into Grant's place to do a little more wheel work. I had four 8 lug wheel centers that I plan on using the center of and a couple of 16" wheels that I'm going to use the bead seats for making a set of wheels. We did the plasma cutting outside since the ventilation is better outside. The first pic shows the wheel center ready to be trimmed.



The second pic shows one of the rims getting the bead seat being removed.



The third pic shows one of the wheels with both bead seats removed.



The last one shows the second wheel getting the last bead seat removed.



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Old 11-20-2005, 09:08 AM   #84
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We did the plasma cutting outside since the ventilation is better outside.

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That just made me chuckle, hehehe

The work is fun to watch. Very impressive ingenuity, once again.
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:21 AM   #85
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Here's another pic showing the electric drill, held firmly in a vise, driving the gear box input, the wheel mounted on the gearbox output and the plasma torch secured on a camera tripod. Rube Goldberg would be proud.

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Old 11-20-2005, 11:30 AM   #86
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Last night the pictures worked but now the first 4 and the new one don't show up! I haven't seen your latest one yet.

Erik, we got over an hour of video footage last night. Every angle and zoom setting. I'll try to have something ready tonight.
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Old 11-20-2005, 03:41 PM   #87
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Last night the pictures worked but now the first 4 and the new one don't show up! I haven't seen your latest one yet.

Erik, we got over an hour of video footage last night. Every angle and zoom setting. I'll try to have something ready tonight.
The pictures are on montypic.com they may have been down when you were looking.

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Old 11-20-2005, 06:10 PM   #88
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It works now. I checked outisde, and it looks like an area of about 16x30 feet has soot on it. Not in the direction of cutting but wind. It looks like the cloud of smoke blows back and settles. Its pretty faint though, so its hard to tell where it ends.
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Old 11-20-2005, 07:29 PM   #89
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After you left I unmounted 4 more tires and then cut them up. I was pretty tired when it was all over. I'm heading out right now to make some jigs.
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:26 PM   #90
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Default Re: Home made insert double beadlocks

Grant. When you put the boltholes in the rings did you use a stencil and drill them or were you cutting them with a program?
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:28 PM   #91
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I cut them with the computer.
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Old 11-20-2005, 09:34 PM   #92
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I have a set of rims I was gonna recenter and add some weld on rings. Might give you a holler.
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Old 11-20-2005, 10:08 PM   #93
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You mean like rock stomper style external weld on clamp bead locks? What size rim and bolt pattern?

External beadlocks are easy to make on this thing.
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Old 11-20-2005, 10:17 PM   #94
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Yup. Similar to rockstompers. I dunno that I will ultimately need beadlocks, but I like to tinker with stuff. Since weld on rings add about 1.5" I figure a stock chevy steel rim @ 16x9ish 8on6.5 would be fine for a 15 wide tire.

I was thinkin about doin custom cut centers and changing the BS to about 3ish versus 5"
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Old 03-12-2006, 10:57 PM   #95
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I'm finishing up Norm's rims this week because I want to get back to working on my buggy.

The first set of rims were backspaced using 3 spools of wire. Gus and Norm thought it needed to be .5"-1" shallower, so I made ONE more with the spools and two more with the drinking glasses.



Here are the 3 remaining rims with the center flange welded in:



Two of the rims were made using ford sized holes. They were the two deep backspaced rims. They will fit either a D60 or 14bFF. The chevy 14bFF has a smaller hub than the D60, which is why the chevy rims have a smaller holes. The ford front 60 and chevy 60 seem to take the same size rim. My trailer spindle wouldn't fit the chevy rim, so I used 6 washers as spacers.



The drums aren't PERFECT, and the spreader I made was actually helpful. The pressure is needed so that you can tap the bead seat into perfect place without it falling out of alignment.

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Old 03-12-2006, 10:57 PM   #96
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For welding on the other bead seat I used the other jig tools I made. I didn't tighten the bolts, but they were helpful for getting them parallel. There will be a hard plastic insert between the two beads, so it is probably good to be parallel. I was very happy to find no runout when fitting them parallel.



Here are the 3 remaining rims ready to be split in half and welded to the second flange. I should have them split and tacked to the other ring Monday night. I might even get a start on welding them. I'll be using my home made dual shield welder on them.

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Old 03-12-2006, 11:13 PM   #97
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looking good Grant. 9.5TI on the floor will look really good on the front of the green monster.

Will be in town in 14 days, I can come get some of that stuff out of your way.

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Old 03-12-2006, 11:21 PM   #98
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The 9.5ti is for my brother's suburban. He is borrowing it from somebody. I have an 8274 for the Big Green. I like the 8274 because its pretty easy to work on. The 8274 I have needs a TON of work.

Its been around 4-5 months since I started the rims...I'm glad you're so patient about the whole deal.

You're going to take the chevy SM465 too, right?
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Old 03-13-2006, 04:15 PM   #99
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I found some stuff I forgot to post. This post goes before the ones I just did.

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Since I have to make 7 more of these things I decided to make some jigs. This means I won't have to check runout as much.

I also wanted to weld the drum to the bead seats with some ".045 Esab Dual Shield II Ultra 70". This stuff will run hot so i can't have irregular gaps in the drum to bead seat fit. that's what the internal clamp is for. we have the bead seats alligned and the drum getting pushed into the seats.

I have 3 of the rim spacer C clamps made even though there are only 2 there. I built two of the circular push out jigs.

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Old 03-13-2006, 04:16 PM   #100
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You have to tack weld one bead seat before using the spacer bars. The spacer bars hold the bead seats parallel with each other for the most part but not good enough.

First bead seat clamped:


Tacked:


Second bead spaced:


Clamped:


Somewhat done...


The only bad thing about it is the split in the drum. Its okay though...worse things could happen. I hope the runout is acceptable. We're using it with 45" tractor tires...but I still want them to be good.
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