B-29

[Spencer4x4]

Me, Chris, mike, and wayne hit up B-29 Sunday. Awesome weather for us all to enjoy. My first time on the this trail and I loved it. We did not get all the way up to the top because someone in out group ran into some serious Carnage along the way which we will get into the details at a later time. I'm still in the process of testing out my Burb and getting all the bugs out. My truck ran great all day, my front ARB compressor still sitting in my garage so I didn't have the front locked and I think it prevented me from getting all the way up Cable hill, but it was still fun trying. Here are a few pics, I got alot more but can't post all right now.

[Spencer4x4]

[bigsub]

I see red Xs. So I tried the your Supermotors link and is does not work for me.

[Spencer4x4]

**** it scuba steve, I don't know whats going on, my computer is acting up.

[Smee907]

I heard the carnage story, when you guys gonna post some pics of it?

[Kodiak Dodge]

Pictures!

[AKBearMoose]

Wow...heard about it last night...Holy Hell! I'll let them tell the story tonight

[chris112lee]

[chris112lee]

thats all for now ..... maybe more in a few days.... its up to him.

[yellowk20]

Wow that FSJ is nice!!! jeep should have done that from the factory!!!

great pics guys cant wait to see the carnage pics ...... sorry chris it's like a car wreck you can t help but look

[huskerXJ]

looks like a great trip, can't wait to read the rest of the story.

[nate]

Ain't no fair i have to be at **** hole work and you guys are out wheeling

[B-uno]

that toyota catch on fire again? hey i noticed since wayne put the ford engine in it every pic has the hood up, Fix Or Repair Daily!!

[chris112lee]

just got a text burb is loaded on the trailer and on its way home.

[Fix-It]

Originally Posted by B-uno

that toyota catch on fire again? hey i noticed since wayne put the ford engine in it every pic has the hood up, Fix Or Repair Daily!!

thats pretty funny coming from a ford guy ..

actually hood was up cause i forgot to bring my winch controller so i was operating it manually ..

helping pulling up the john deer .. i never had a single issue all week its run great made it up baldy both times unassisted ..

even got to play in the same mud hole the burb broke in today ..

tonight we just got him off the hill in front whel drive ..

here is a short list of what broke on his burb ..

1. his high pressure steering line
2. rear drive shaft/u joint
3. spun the diff on the axle tubes on his 14 bolt (1st for me to see that )
4. broke right side stub shaft on his dana 60
5. broke drivers side long shaft
6. broke the steering box off the frame (2 days old )

all on one trip in one hole ..

but we had 2 clubs pull together and help pull his truck apart and get him rolling in 2wd back down the mountain and even steering ..

denali offroad and 2 broke to play kicked *** tonight ..thanks

i have a bunch of pics illload up tomarrow im beat and its late ..

[B-uno]

Originally Posted by Fix-It

thats pretty funny coming from a ford guy ..

actually hood was up cause i forgot to bring my winch controller so i was operating it manually ..

helping pulling up the john deer .. i never had a single issue all week its run great made it up baldy both times unassisted ..

even got to play in the same mud hole the burb broke in today ..

tonight we just got him off the hill in front whel drive ..

here is a short list of what broke on his burb ..

1. his high pressure steering line
2. rear drive shaft/u joint
3. spun the diff on the axle tubes on his 14 bolt (1st for me to see that )
4. broke right side stub shaft on his dana 60
5. broke drivers side long shaft
6. broke the steering box off the frame (2 days old )

all on one trip in one hole ..

but we had 2 clubs pull together and help pull his truck apart and get him rolling in 2wd back down the mountain and even steering ..

denali offroad and 2 broke to play kicked *** tonight ..thanks

i have a bunch of pics illload up tomarrow im beat and its late ..

good lord! i like international not ford or gm engines. i do like cummins too. next time haev spencer4x4 build it his holds up great!

[jpsfri]

I guess Chris didn't make the M&G meeting. Sorry to hear the issue, but glas to hear it is not sitting on the mountain or worse.

[AK_Ford]

So chris, do you attribute the breakage to the ags? Im running the same axles with the same gears, and a little less HP, and was considerign ags, but maybe not now

The burbs lookin sweet btw!

[chris112lee]

This was the first time I put it to the floor with the ags, and it lasted about 3 seconds. Yes I contribute it to the ags, the traction is just unreal.

I had 35 spline outers on it, and they held up just fine, it was a u-joint and long shaft that broke. I would definitely weld the axle tube, because that was a pretty stupid problem to have.

Here is the sequence of events for the carnage:

I drove up cable hill, and broke a battery mount while getting a tire on top of a 3+ foot berm to get around a rock. The battery bounced onto the high pressure steering hose, forcing it against the PS pump pulley. The hose quickly got a hole in it, and after a few repair attempts, I decided to run without power steering. We headed further up and came to the mud pit. It was only 2 ft deep so I idled right through it. On the other side of the mud pit there are 3-4 foot ruts going up a steep embankment. Of course I had to try. I went twice at about half throttle, then hammered it for a few second before hearing something binding up.

I got out to look, and the driveshaft was on the ground, and the pumpkin on the rear axle was pointing straight up. I spun both tubes on the 14 bolt, broke the rear u-joint, and the ears off my driveshaft. I pulled the driveshaft completely out, and tried to back down. Only 1 tire was spinning.

Spencer4x4 pulled me backwards through the pit and onto dry ground, so we could get a better look. Broken ears off the inner short shaft. I pulled that out, and decided we should try to limp out in 1 wheel drive. I backed up a few feet, and the wheels started turning opposite of the steering wheel (remember this is without power steering).

Got out to take a gander, and saw the box hanging off the frame. Turns out one of the ears (mounting tabs) broke off the box, and the other 3 bolts snapped in half.

At this point we gave up on it, but had to move it since it was blocking the trail. I tired to drive forward a bit, but apparently the steering box was wedged between the tire and leaf spring, and that shaft snapped. WE drug it off to the side with a my winch, and left it.

We went back today, and threw in some full spare shaft sets to save time. My hubs were also toast, so I borrowed one from Jed, and used one of Ryans spares. Got it buttoned up around 930ish and drove out in front wheel drive. FYI I didnt even need to spin a tire coming back out.

I will add pictures later.

[chris112lee]

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[sirflexalot]

chris its a good thing your part of 2B2P cause they were out there in force for a fellow wheeler

[dstrbdxp-AK]

Wow. 10 years ago that was a small atv wide trail. Now it's a super highway.

[B-uno]

Originally Posted by sirflexalot

chris its a good thing your part of 2B2P cause they were out there in force for a fellow wheeler

what is a 2b2p?

[Spencer4x4]

Originally Posted by B-uno

good lord! i like international not ford or gm engines. i do like cummins too. next time haev spencer4x4 build it his holds up great!

Its not that Chris didn't build his truck up right, its just a combo of a 383 motor, lockers, 46" AG tires and some heavy throttle that did the truck in. His truck is by far stouter than mine, I also was being a wuss and taking it easy on my junk. This was really my first time actually wheeling my truck since I built it so I am still going kinda easy trying to feel it out. I don't have an abundance of spare parts built up yet so I'm trying not to break. My truck however did work great, no issues at all, I just need that front ARB working, I think it will make it much more capable. Awesome day of wheeling. The sun was out, not many bugs and my 2 Sons had a blast riding along and also running around the woods just being boys. That 78 Wide trac Cherokee is a bad *** truck, I also think that the convert top should have come from the factory. Kinda looks like a Scout on roids. Thanks to Chris for allowing me to come along, Also thanks to his wife Rachael for helping watch my boys and feeding them cookies, hot dogs and other good stuff. Wayne is a heck of a guy as well and I look forward to wheeling more with you guys.

[Spencer4x4]

This the hole that beatch slapped Chris